$250,000, this is a major scand scandal-- >> and interesting to what the white house says, but what relationship they had in the planning of this. >> for viewers who might not know exactly what we're talking about, a series of dinners, cocktail parties at the homes of washington's most-- >> editors. >> owners. >> the publishers and reporters would be involved. >> right. >> and a memo went out suggesting that, oh, if you want to talk health care with some of the, you know, top folks in the obama administration, come over to my house, $25,000 will get you in the door. >> in off the record, noncontroversial settings, the flyer said, intimate setting. >> this wasn't money that was going to be donated to charity. >> no. >> not unless you consider that a charity, it may be given the drop off in revenue. look, this is paying for access, this is an out-- this is a line do you not cross in journalism, this is one of the fundamental principles.